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Worse is Better and Clojure

I've been writing code in Clojure now for a few weeks and I'm really enjoying the simplicity and power of the language. I think that the progress being made right now in the Clojure community is great and that there are definitely good things to come. I couldn't help but thinking back to the Worse is Better series of papers the first week or so I was learning the language. For those that haven't read the paper, I'd highly recommend it, along with the rebuttal found here and another here. I wrote a blog entry about it about 3 or 4 years ago, but unfortunately it looks like it's been taken down. It was on a company blog and it looks like it's been replaced with another blog system.

I remember reading the article for the first time and realizing how right Richard Gabriel was and how I wanted him to be wrong. The realization that the best solution to the problem isn't always the right solution floored me. As someone who enjoys a hard problem and tries hard to come up with the best solution I can to problems, the C analogy was very thought provoking. This brings me to Clojure. Clojure seems like it might well be the compromise talked about in Worse is Better, yet with enough of the essence of Lisp to still have the right solution. There's no doubt that the Clojure folks have had to make some compromises to fit into the mould of the JVM. An example is Tail Recursion in Clojure, implemented via the recur special form. As a user of the language, I obviously would prefer tail calls to just work, without me having to tell it. That is a hard problem in the context of the JVM, so I understand the decision. This felt to me like the PC loser-ing problem In the context of Worse is Better. Although the right decision might be to crack the hard problem or worse yet, wait for the tail calls on the JVM, this seems like a small trade-off that is still workable.

Another good call by the Clojure folks, in my opinion, is the Java integration. Below is a quote from Worse is Better on integration:

In the worse-is-better world, integration is linking your .o files together, freely intercalling functions, and using the same basic data representations. You don’t have a foreign loader, you don’t coerce types across function-call boundaries, you don’t make one language dominant, and you don’t make the woes of your implementation technology impact the entire system.

Sound familiar? Not only is calling Java from Clojure seamless, there's actually syntax sugar (through macros) to make calling Java code easier. No need to convert everything over to a specific Clojure object format or anything like that, it just works. You might have to make a Java collection seq-able or something similar, but it's pretty minimal fuss. There are also facilities for Clojure code to create Java proxies and Java interfaces (though I've not used them). This allows Java code to integrate with Clojure code. It seems to me that the Java integration in Clojure very much fits with the quote from Richard Gabriel. This tight integration I believe will be the path in to Clojure for many developers.

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